Alliance & Leicester takeover; how it affects you

by MoneyDoctor Tuesday 15 July, 2008

All Leics 163 With the big story this week being Santander's takeover of Alliance and Leicester, it's only natural that many of you will have some questions about what happens next.

So, here are some answers to some key questions:

  • I'm an A&L customer; will I get a windfall from the takeover?

This looks unlikely; the only windfalls will go to shareholders of the bank.

The reason customers in building society takeovers get a payout is that as members they effectively own the society. A&L was a building society but was demutualised back in 1997.

You will see your mortgage or account transferred to the new owner and eventually it will become an Abbey account.

  • What will happen to my current account and savings?

It's highly unlikely that everything that needs to be merged will be ready by October when the deal is due to be signed.  Although no new accounts will be launched under the A&L brand, existing accounts are likely to run in tandem for a while. 

A&L has had the best current account on the market for a while now, both in interest rate (paying up to 8.19% to its Premier Direct customers) and winning the Moneyfacts current account of the year for 5 years in succession.

Abbey recently launched a competitive deal, but at 7.72% the rate is slightly lower and there are more restrictions.

Kevin Mountford of price comparison website Moneysupermarket.com says he is concerned that the loss of A&L would make the rest of the savings and current account markets less competitive. 

  • What will happen to my mortgage?

Given the current state of the property market, a very important question. If you are an existing A&L mortgage customer, you will continue making payments as before and are unlikely to notice any difference until you come to the end of any special offer period.

Ray Boulger of mortgage broker John Charcol is concerned that having introduced a new computer system to Abbey, Santander will ditch the one that runs A&L's mortgages, and with it the flexible tracker mortgages currently on offer. He said:

"One of the key differences between Abbey and A&L is that A&L has a fully flexible mortgage; you can pay off your mortgage so there is only £1 left without any penalties and borrow the money back when you want. It would be a great shame if the UK market lost this flexibility."

Rate-wise, Abbey has been offering better deals than A&L, which has only only recently reappeared in the best-buy tables after many months away.  This is because Abbey benefits from Santander's greater financial strength, which allows it to borrow more cheaply than smaller mortgage lenders like A&L.

When it is time to remortgage, as a former A&L customer, you may get lower interest rates than you would have had access to had the bank remained independent.

  • What about customer service? 

Hmm…an interesting one; it could improve or get worse!

In recent months, Abbey has attracted a huge number of complaints (especially over ISA transfers) which are apparently due to the introduction of a new computer system by Santander.  Whether A&L customers experience similar issues will depend on how the bank decides to integrate the two lenders.

There are other issues that could arise from suddenly finding your account is owned and administered by an overseas-based bank; some Abbey customers have had difficulties reporting credit card fraud to Santander's Spanish call centre.

Given that Santander is unlikely to keep open two branches of the same bank sitting right next to each other on the high street, it seems pretty likely there will be branch closures (and staff layoffs).

And for all of us, this could mean even fewer cash machines that still offer free access to our money!

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jill herbert says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 00:56

you can use a&l accounts at a post office free but not abbey
so will this be another hit on your alredy stuggling post office
i run a post office and do alot of business for a& l

Tricia Barton says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 11:06

I am very happy with the service I have received from A&L but very unhappy with the appalling service from Abbey. I will be moving before October unless Santander promise the same rates and service as A&L.

k bastin says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 11:11

I'm pig sick as I've literally only just moved from Abbey to Alliance and Leicester! I don't think I could face moving again just yet.. so I'll wait and see what happens..

v. hebben says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 11:58

Both my husband and I have been A&L customers for almost 30 years. Never had any complaints regarding the way our accounts etc have been handled. Can't say the same about Abbey. I have lost count of the complaints I have had to make, the worst during the handling of my late mothers estate, Lack of sympathy, tact and no evidence of professionalism, so serious it led to a compensation claim. Looks like I will be changing banks, sad after all these years!

Valerie Herbert says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 12:08

I am annoyed that I have not been informed by Alliance & Leicester about this very important change, after being a customer for 30 years.
I have always found the Alliance to be very helpful and curtious staff, but now wonder what will happen after reading the article!

D Holloway says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 12:44

As exisiting shareholders (shares held from demutulisation) will we be in line for future shares?

beingsalt says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 16:55

Valerie, to be fair to A&L's management, it's not a done deal just yet; Santander are only just agreeing with shareholders to buy them out, and it'll probably be a while before management can say for definite what will happen. So the article is more like informed speculation than concrete news

R Sims says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 21:25

Alliance & Leics are the biggest bunch of cowboys I have ever dealt with.
(apologies for ending a sentence with a preposition)
I was forced to refer a complaint to the Financial Ombudsman (and won) after trying to get some sense from A&L for 15 months!
All & Leics then cancelled my account out of spite.
Good riddance, i hope they all get made redundant.

Michael Jones says:

Tuesday 22 July, 2008 / 23:21

I really cannot believe that the takeover of A&L wasn't reported earlier. I had so much trouble with the Abbey not only with my current account but the disappearance of all of my money for a month from what I had thought was an ISA opened in this tax year but the Abbey completely messed up and opened as a 2007/8 account, that 4 weeks ago I moved to A&L. Now I dread what is coming. The Abbey was a really good customer orientated bank before Santander took over. Since then their customer care has become absolutely appalling. I spent 192 minutes on a mobile paying premium rate to be told probably 150 times that they were sorry that they could only pass my complaints on and that someone would ring me back which thy never did because, I suppose, they thought that as they were based in Scotland they were far enough away to ignore me.

rigley says:

Wednesday 23 July, 2008 / 10:28

I too am appalled at the thought of Alliance and Leicester perhaps being taken over by this group.
I vowed never, ever to be involved with Abbey after the most dreadful customer care experienced over a period of time. The attitude of their staff is dreadful and I can well understand that they need to have notices on their counter telling us they will not tolerate abuse to their staff. The Nationwide next door, strangly do not seem to have the same need for this notice. I wonder if this could be because you do not feel like you are exuding steam while in the Nationwide?
My daughter over the last year had even worse experiences. She tried to change her address in Aberdeen, went to work in Europe, came back to find they had not changed her address, asked to change her address again. They said it was changed, still everything went to the wrong address unknown to her. Because of this she was unaware of a £50 overdraught they were asking her to pay for. As soon as she knew, she paid it completely, still address not changed, now turned down for a mortgage, bad credit rating with experian, solely through this unknown overdraft. Next she was told she must fly back to Aberdeen from Holland to obtain the original change of address form in order to prove she had changed her address. This she did and hoped she had worked it all out now. £100 compensation arrives from Abbey. Still the address is not changed and her next statement goes to the wrong address again. We now go into a local branch to close the account as they still had not got the right address and a very unprofessional girl (badly dressed and acting rather like Katherine Tate)- was called for - by the girl at the counter and dares to tell us that she cannot believe that we have tried to change the address so many times. I nearly exploded. By this time the abbey had taken half the £100 compensation for apparent charges from months before - but we could not even bother to argue. You get nowhere anyway!
After putting the whole case in writing with evidence she eventually got another £100 compensation and an agreement to remove the bad credit rating immediately. Keeping our fingers crossed, without much hope !!
Very, very, fed up with the type of service we seem to be having to learn to expect. Will now have to move my All & Leic account of one year somewhere else, anywhere but somewhere run by these Santander people.

Meerkat says:

Wednesday 23 July, 2008 / 10:52

Sounds like Abbey/Santander are spending too much time and effort on hobnobbing with Lewis Hamilton and other Formula 1 types to worry about looking after the money of hard working normal people.

neil says:

Wednesday 23 July, 2008 / 17:56

If the A and L takeover happens there will be NO abbey endings!!!! As a shareholder I have been sold out by the greedy management.....They felt it best to sell out ....for their shareholders sakes!!!! What bullshit,its to cover their backsides.If they had any confidence in their product they would continue their present"good trading"and watch their share price increase to sensible level.....They are bottling out and screwing their shareholders...to boot.Santander were around when shares were peaking at £12....now they are buying out at £2.99....I smell something rather nasty and feel completely let down by their proposed actions.....As per usual,our trust is thrown back into our faces and our Spanish colleagues will be laughing all the way to their wonderful bank,whilst offering a service on a par with Shabby National.....Happy Days.....Let us pray for Divine Intervention.....I think its our only chance!!!!!!

n judge says:

Saturday 26 July, 2008 / 17:40

we as shareholders can always vote no

neil says:

Tuesday 29 July, 2008 / 10:06

As a shareholder I will be voting....NO.....But I have a horrible feeling it wont make any difference!!!!!!

Scoobie says:

Wednesday 30 July, 2008 / 19:12

Large corporate companies can't do customer service because to do good customer service you need good people and plenty of them. Corporates are always looking at the bottom line. Having worked for a company that had a cracking customer service record and excellent reputation until they were bought by a national corporate i speak from experiance. They don't value small fish they are only interested in harpooning the big whale. When all the whales are gone there will only be lots of little fish who know how to stay out of the way of big nets!! I,m off to look for a new mortgage!

glynnis chambers says:

Saturday 02 August, 2008 / 07:43

i have a claim in against A&L for my bank charges which has been put on hold because of the court cast. can anyone tell me would this take over, which A&L have yet to tell me is gonna happen, make any change to that or do i need to reclaim.

brenda mason says:

Sunday 03 August, 2008 / 22:33

I am disgusted with A/L.. they still owe me £2,500 from snowballing charges and have accepted this by offerine me a lesser amount which I refused., I am still waiting for settlement and keep writing to be told that it will be dealt with..they knew all along that they were going to merge and have held onto my money making interest.. I have paid up my mortgage with them and have taken all of my accounts away favouring nat west because of sheer incompitence and poor customer service.. A/L service is dispicable.. I want to know what happens now to the charges that they owe me??? will this still be honoured with the new merger?? they have taken the micky..

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